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	<title>Comments on: The upper Suir: Carrick to Clonmel</title>
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		<title>By: bjg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bjg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 21:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Being discouraged sounds like a good plan .... The problem is that you couldn&#039;t predict what conditions you might encounter: anything from shallows (as on this page http://irishwaterwayshistory.com/abandoned-or-little-used-irish-waterways/waterways-of-the-south-east/the-upper-suir-carrick-to-clonmel/up-the-suir/) to a raging torrent through the bridges. I&#039;ll give you a ring. bjg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being discouraged sounds like a good plan &#8230;. The problem is that you couldn&#8217;t predict what conditions you might encounter: anything from shallows (as on this page <a href="http://irishwaterwayshistory.com/abandoned-or-little-used-irish-waterways/waterways-of-the-south-east/the-upper-suir-carrick-to-clonmel/up-the-suir/" rel="nofollow">http://irishwaterwayshistory.com/abandoned-or-little-used-irish-waterways/waterways-of-the-south-east/the-upper-suir-carrick-to-clonmel/up-the-suir/</a>) to a raging torrent through the bridges. I&#8217;ll give you a ring. bjg</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Durkin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Durkin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 20:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading all this discourages me from taking part in a rowing tour on the Suir from Clonmel downstream. We were hoping to use touring quad sculls.  Any thoughts?

Frank D.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading all this discourages me from taking part in a rowing tour on the Suir from Clonmel downstream. We were hoping to use touring quad sculls.  Any thoughts?</p>
<p>Frank D.</p>
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		<title>By: bjg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bjg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 19:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Tom. A very useful link and I&#039;m delighted to learn of the connection to the Chancellor of the Exchequer! bjg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Tom. A very useful link and I&#8217;m delighted to learn of the connection to the Chancellor of the Exchequer! bjg</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Hahessy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Hahessy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 17:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tom Hahessy:
I stumbled on this while browsing &quot;Clonmel&quot;.  Congratulations on an excellent piece of work.
The History of Clonmel referred to by PJD claims that the first settlement in Clonmel was by Viking traders, on the Island in your sketch.  This trading centre was protected by the local chietains, presumably for some payment.
Here is the link to an online version.  
http://www.archive.org/stream/historyclonmel00burkgoog/historyclonmel00burkgoog_djvu.txt

By copying it into a WORD document you can search the text for more information by EDIT    FIND.  
 An interesting fact is that Sir Thomas&#039; bridge was built by Sir Thomas Osborne, the ancestor of the currrent UK Chancellor of the Exchequer, who will succeed to hs title.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Hahessy:<br />
I stumbled on this while browsing &#8220;Clonmel&#8221;.  Congratulations on an excellent piece of work.<br />
The History of Clonmel referred to by PJD claims that the first settlement in Clonmel was by Viking traders, on the Island in your sketch.  This trading centre was protected by the local chietains, presumably for some payment.<br />
Here is the link to an online version.<br />
<a href="http://www.archive.org/stream/historyclonmel00burkgoog/historyclonmel00burkgoog_djvu.txt" rel="nofollow">http://www.archive.org/stream/historyclonmel00burkgoog/historyclonmel00burkgoog_djvu.txt</a></p>
<p>By copying it into a WORD document you can search the text for more information by EDIT    FIND.<br />
 An interesting fact is that Sir Thomas&#8217; bridge was built by Sir Thomas Osborne, the ancestor of the currrent UK Chancellor of the Exchequer, who will succeed to hs title.</p>
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		<title>By: bjg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bjg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 14:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, James. Your best bet is to contact &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.southtippheritage.ie/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; South Tipperary County Council&#039;s Heritage Officer&lt;/a&gt; who takes a great interest in the Suir. I&#039;ve corrected the reference to Carrickbeg. bjg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, James. Your best bet is to contact <a href="http://www.southtippheritage.ie/" rel="nofollow"> South Tipperary County Council&#8217;s Heritage Officer</a> who takes a great interest in the Suir. I&#8217;ve corrected the reference to Carrickbeg. bjg</p>
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		<title>By: bjg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bjg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 14:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s very interesting; thank you. I&#039;m not completely sure that water transport would have been more expensive than road: I have seen some accounts from the UK suggesting that, at least for bulk goods, water transport was cheaper. At the time, it would certainly have been faster, although the water route might have been less direct. bjg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s very interesting; thank you. I&#8217;m not completely sure that water transport would have been more expensive than road: I have seen some accounts from the UK suggesting that, at least for bulk goods, water transport was cheaper. At the time, it would certainly have been faster, although the water route might have been less direct. bjg</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[james]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 22:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[great read wonderful river.carrickbeg is in tipperary..could anybody give me details of who is resposible for the upkeep of the towpath from carrick to clonmel as some of the banks are in bad need of repair.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great read wonderful river.carrickbeg is in tipperary..could anybody give me details of who is resposible for the upkeep of the towpath from carrick to clonmel as some of the banks are in bad need of repair.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Lynch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Lynch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 09:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well done for very interesting blog. I have an old letter dated 1828 from a Clonmel gentleman who is placing an order for a large quantity of claret from a Dublin spirit merchant. What is interesting is the delivery route he has specified. He wanted the order placed on the Kingstown steamer headed for Waterford, and from there handed over to his broker who would place it on the first boat to Clonmel. I would assume that this delivery method was more expensive than transporting overland but he says with this method, the load would be delivered &#039;without much shaking&#039;. Probably less chance of theft as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done for very interesting blog. I have an old letter dated 1828 from a Clonmel gentleman who is placing an order for a large quantity of claret from a Dublin spirit merchant. What is interesting is the delivery route he has specified. He wanted the order placed on the Kingstown steamer headed for Waterford, and from there handed over to his broker who would place it on the first boat to Clonmel. I would assume that this delivery method was more expensive than transporting overland but he says with this method, the load would be delivered &#8216;without much shaking&#8217;. Probably less chance of theft as well.</p>
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		<title>By: bjg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bjg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 21:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for giving the link. I consulted Fred Hamond&#039;s reports for my section on infrastructure and for my account of the trip from &lt;a href=&quot;http://irishwaterwayshistory.com/abandoned-or-little-used-irish-waterways/the-upper-suir-carrick-to-clonmel/up-the-suir/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kilsheelan to the Anner Bridge&lt;/a&gt;. I completely agree about the value of the reports; in fact I think Fred&#039;s is now the best single resource for anyone interested in the navigation of the upper Suir (although I have better pics!). I strongly recommend that folk interested in the Suir should go to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.southtippcoco.ie/en/aboutus/news/mainbody,6305,en.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;page&lt;/a&gt; as you suggest.

bjg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for giving the link. I consulted Fred Hamond&#8217;s reports for my section on infrastructure and for my account of the trip from <a href="http://irishwaterwayshistory.com/abandoned-or-little-used-irish-waterways/the-upper-suir-carrick-to-clonmel/up-the-suir/" rel="nofollow">Kilsheelan to the Anner Bridge</a>. I completely agree about the value of the reports; in fact I think Fred&#8217;s is now the best single resource for anyone interested in the navigation of the upper Suir (although I have better pics!). I strongly recommend that folk interested in the Suir should go to the <a href="http://www.southtippcoco.ie/en/aboutus/news/mainbody,6305,en.html" rel="nofollow">page</a> as you suggest.</p>
<p>bjg</p>
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		<title>By: slatz22</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[slatz22]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2010 18:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;A built, cultural and natural heritage audit has been undertaken along a 33km stretch of the River Suir by Fred Hamond and Dr Helen Sheridan, for the Heritage Office, South Tipperary County Council with funding from The Heritage Council.&quot;
http://www.southtippcoco.ie/en/aboutus/news/mainbody,6305,en.html

Lots of interesting reading in the PDF files available on the above page.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A built, cultural and natural heritage audit has been undertaken along a 33km stretch of the River Suir by Fred Hamond and Dr Helen Sheridan, for the Heritage Office, South Tipperary County Council with funding from The Heritage Council.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.southtippcoco.ie/en/aboutus/news/mainbody,6305,en.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.southtippcoco.ie/en/aboutus/news/mainbody,6305,en.html</a></p>
<p>Lots of interesting reading in the PDF files available on the above page.</p>
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